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Adjustments to knockdown percents for Clairen#917

I’ve played Clairen since open beta and I’m a big fan of the recent changes made to her. When I was making a resource to be used by other Clairen players to help learn knockdown percents and when moves become safe on floorhug, I found a couple of her sourspots which seem like outliers with regards to when they should knockdown, and their knockdown percent relative to the tipper.

Up Tilt:
Sour knocks down at 15-20%
Tipper knocks down at 12-17%
This move is a phenomenal techchasing tool, it usually only takes Clairen one neutral win to build enough percent for it to knock down, and can reduce the punish to covering 2/3 tech options with uptilt in some situations. If Clairen sets up a platform techchase at zero (usually with upthrow), most characters can only floorhug one tipper uptilt before being knocked down by a subsequent sour. I think the sour is the one that needs to get raised, as a tipper uptilt can lead into a grab on floorhug at low percents anyways.

Forward Air:
Sour fair2 knocks down at 26-32%
Tipper fair knocks down at 32-41%
It seems counterintuitive that the sour for this move knocks down before the tipper, I think this is the result of the recent changes to reduce its effectiveness as a combo tool. The tipper for this move knocks down substancially later than for her other aerials.

Down Air:
Early sour knocks down at 36-45%
Late sour knocks down at 70-87%
Why is there such a big disparity between when the early and late hits knock down? The late sour is her latest knockdown percent on an aerial by almost 30% on average.

Neutral Air:
Sour nair6 knocks down at 24-30%
Tipper nair6 knocks down at 24-31%
I would like to see a difference between the knockdown percent on sour and tipper on this move too. The tipper knockdown is also quite late compared to her other aerials (except fair)

I think a lot of characters could use adjustments to the percent ranges where their moves knockdown, these are just the ones I can confidently say should be looked at, because I play the character.

5 months ago